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Comment Date: Wed Aug 27, 2008
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Mystical_Rose2,
You have made an extraordinary claim for this vase (Wanli). Can you point us to another example, that leads you to this conclusion? i.e. a book or online reference.
The foot rim, hue of the cobalt blue, lack of bristle holes in the base, shape and motif all make me think this vase dates no earlier than late 19th cen. and probably is from the mid 1960's. In addition, I would think perhaps it is actually Korean.
I'm am always willing to admit I am wrong, so prove me wrong.
In the mean time, I will post, from my collection, a typical (other than it's size) Wanli Kraak vase in this section. It is not for sale.
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Comment Date: Thu Sep 4, 2008
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Hi Jerry M,
This Mystical_Rose2, My Name is Rob, I want to thank you for a Creating this great site & Accepting me as a Member :):)
Also, I read Your Post/Opinion, about my Ming Vase, I just want you to know,& I run my Business & Treat My Customers with the Uttmost, Intergrity & Honesty. When I purchase Things for resale, I always fully Research them, Sometime I won't sell a Piece for a Month, or two, I have had pieces for a year, before I Knew without a doubt what I was selling.
"All Kraak porcelain was made at the main ceramic centre in China, Jingdezhen. It does vary in style and quality to quite a large extent, and some scholars include pieces as kraakware that others do not, so a definitive description is, I Feel, rarther difficult". This is a Quote from one of my Reserch Reference sites(R&G McPHERSON Antiques, They are based & London, have a walk in Gallery in London & Webste, They Specialize in Authentic Early Chinese , Japanese, Shipweaked, Southern Asian) Here is there Link to R&G's Ming Page: (Please Click Lick below, take a look down & Observe the Different Bases, used on the Ming Wanli, Ming Wanli Kraak Pieces.http://www.orientalceramics.com/frames.htm?page=blueframe.asp
Also, The Style of my Ming Vase is called a Cacoon Style, it has been used since the Yuan Dynasty(1271-1368). Here is the link to an Example of An Authentic Yuan Dynasty Junyao Vase in Cacoon Shape(1279-1368) http://www.cicadaasianart.com/gallery/Category/5/Item/305/.
The Color of the Blue used on My Vase is not the exact color That is shows in my Pictures, those pictures are terrible, I will putting on newer ones, here is one more site about Kraak Ming export Pieces, here is another Link, His Name is Warner Troesch and is an Authority on the Ming, Kraak, Export, referred By Jan-Erik-Nilsson, of gotheborg.com. Link is: http://gotheborg.com/links/links-index.htm (then click on KRAAK PORCELAIN, A COLLECTERS GUIDE by Warner Troesch).
Here is a Link to a Page on Taso Shu or (Running Style) Calligraphy ( Scorll down Page and goto the Section Titled Huai Su, on the 3rd Picture Example of his Running Style in the Middle of this Example Chart, will be a Running Style Caracter/ Symbol Very Simular to the Symbol on My Vase. http://www.art-virtue.com/styles/tsao/index.htm#6
The Symbol on my Vase is a Running Script of Daoist Symbol. Here is Example of the Running Script (was Used in Ming Wanli Period), White Smooth base with Little Bubble Marks that Covers Some of the Lower to Middle Foot Ring, (as on my vase),& Notice the Flesh Red Around the Opening That Travels done the Unglazed inside(as on My Vase), on this Wanli Period, Ming vase. (Here is the Link to this wanli, Ming Vase. I just described, You can See all the Points I just Pointed Out.) http://gotheborg.com/webshop/view_product.php?product=EIG1Y12W3
The Pleasure Is Mine. Have a Great Day & God Bless. May The Angels of the Nine Choirs Surround You & Your family with Peace, Light, Joy & Abundance. Sincerely Mystical_ Rose2 ( Rob A)
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